The news comes from a Wired interview with Sony Interactive Entertainment CEO Jim Ryan, which is part of a move to expand the company’s communications about what goes on behind the scenes.

“I typically prefer doing to talking, but I think we’ve been guilty of not talking enough about what we’ve done,” Ryan said.

Yet this news about crossplay isn’t technically direct from Sony; Wired says it was an indirect confirmation SIE hasn’t yet announced elsewhere. It does, however, fit with some of Sony’s recent cross-play moves.

For example, just recently, Hi-Rez Studios announced that Realm Royale will at last offer PS4 cross-play support, and their 2020 game, Rogue Recon, will have it at launch as well.

All this comes as Sony works to remain relevant in the upcoming console generation, according to Ryan, taking steps to improve its cloud and streaming offerings and ensure players have access to the features they want most.

“The track record of the incumbent platform winning the next time around is not a great one. So the major thrust of my executive energy is to avoid complacency,” Ryan told Wired.